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Phase 315 of WOIIFTM censorship.

What was censored or altered on the vinyl and CD versions compared to the 1986 WOIIFTM/LG twofer CD drums & bass remix? (the LP from the Old Masters Box has the same mix!).

If your CD's or vinyl version differs from my findings please mail me the differences at hades@westbrabant.net
Thanks for the trouble, Harry

A. On all vinyl/cd's (except the 1986 remix):

  1. In "Harry, You're a Beast" (side 1): the lines "Don't come in me, in me (4x)" were censored and played partially forwards, partially backwards, and shuffled.
  2. In "Mother People" (side 2): the lines "Better look around before you say you don't care,  Shut your fuckin' mouth about the length of my hair, How would you survive If you were alive, Shitty little person?" were cut and replaced with "Lemme take a minute and tell you my plan, Lemme take a minute and tell who I am, If it doesn't show,  Think you better know, I'm another person".
    The cut lines were played backwards in the track "Hot Poop" on the “normal censored” versions (see C.1) But even there the word "fucking" is cut!.
  3. In "Who Needs the Peace Corps?" (side 1): at the end of the song after the (spoken words) “And I will stay there with them, And I will get the crabs, But I won't care” the word “because . . .” is missing. On the WOIIFTM outtakes Frank says “Because, because, because …….”.

B. Some vinyl is called "heavily censored" because in:

  1. "Who Needs the Peace Corps?" the line "I will love the police as they kick the shit out of me on the street" was cut (side 1).
  2. "Absolutely Free" the word "balling" was cut in the line "I won't do publicity balling for you anymore" (side 1).
  3. "Absolutely Free" - the words "flower power sucks" were cut (side 1).
  4. "Let's Make the Water Turn Black" - the lines "And I still remember Mama with her apron and her pads, feeding all the boys at Ed's Cafe" were cut (side 2).

C. Two versions of Hot Poop:

  1. on the "normal censored" vinyl and CD (and the 1986 remix): it has Gary Kellgren's whispering  + the cut out verse of Mother People (played backwards) + a snork.
  2. on the "heavily censored" vinyl: " it has only Gary Kellgren's whispering + a (different) snork.
    The backwards verse “Better look around etc. …” from "Mother People" is cut (see A.2).

D. Three versions of the Velvet Underground line in "Concentration Moon”:

  1. "Also, at the same time, I get to work with the Velvet Underground, which is as shitty a group as Frank Zappa's group".
  2. "Also, at the same time, I get to work with the Velvet Underground, Frank Zappa's group".
  3. the whole line is completely cut.

And this is the censorship on my CD’s and LP’s.

Hasi reported his findings

nc = not censored/ c = censored/ - = not applicable

WOIIFTM  A.1 A.2 A3 B.1 B.2 B.3 B.4 C D(#)
uncensored
CD ZAP 13 (woiiftm/LG) CD nc nc nc nc nc nc nc C1 D1
Old Masters LP nc nc nc nc nc nc nc C1 D1
normal censored
US V6 5045X MGS 1250 REV-F (reissue) LP c c c nc nc nc nc C1 D3
Taiwan First fl 1592 LP c c c nc nc nc nc C1 D3
White Label Verve/MGM - (V6 5045 / MGS 1250, REV-F) c c c nc nc nc nc C1 D3
Yellow Label Mono Promo Verve/MGM - (V 5045 / MG 1250) confirmed by seller of this item on Ebay c c c nc nc nc nc C1 D3
UK Verve Select 2317-034 (reissue) LP c c c nc nc nc nc C1 D3
US Ryko Ralp10503 1995 LP c c c nc nc nc nc C1 D3
Rykodisk RCD 10503 CD (from Threesome) c c c nc nc nc nc C1 D3
heavily censored
US V6 5045X (MGS 1250) REV (blue label) LP c c c c c c c C2 D2
German Verve 710012 LP c c c c c c c C2 D2
UK mono VLP 9199 c c c c c c c C2 D2
hybrid vinyl
Canadian V6 5045 LP c c c nc nc nc nc C2 D1
US side 1 REV F (normal)/side 2 REV(heavily) (*) c c c nc nc nc c C1 D3
UK Verve re-issue 2317-034 matrix# 2317034 A//1 (upside down triangle)420 115 (*) c c c nc nc nc c C2 D3
compilations
Mothersday German Metro 2626002 c - - - - - c - D2
The @#$% of the mothers German Verve 710 022 - - - - - - - - D3
Superstarshine 13 Dutch Metro 2356 090 - - - c - - - - D2
Pregnant German Metro 2356 049 - c - c - - - - -
Pop History Vol. 7 German Polydor 2625 012 - - - c c - - - -
Transparancy UK Verve 2352 057 (^) - - - c c c - - D2
Worst of the Mothers French MGM 2353 026 GU - c - - - - - - -
PopHistory Mothers & Velvet Underground German - - - c c - - - -
                   
NEXT ONES REPORTED BY HASI
Pop Giants Vol.27, Brunswick 2911537, Germany - - c c - - - - D2
Pop History Vol.14, Polydor 2335054/55, Espania - - c c c c - - D2
Dolf Hartman präsentiert.., Verve 2304164, Germany c c - - - - - C2 -
The Worst of..., MGM SE 4754, Canada-Promo - c - - - - - - -
The Worst of..., MGM SE 4754, USA - c - - - - - - -
The @#$% of..., Verve V6 5074X, USA-Promo + normal - - - - - - - - D3
Pregnant, Verve 2304072, Colombia (A3: "Who Needs..." fades out after "crabs") - c c c - - - - -
The MOI, MGM GAS 112, USA-Promo + normal: A2*: Mother People starts *late* with: "Lemme take a minute..." - c c nc nc nc - - D3
CD sampler FZ & The MOI, CD 50573, Espania - c - - nc nc - - -

(*) as reported on the alt.fan.frank.zappa newsgroup

(^) All my (European) compilations (except The %$#@ of the mothers) used the "heavily censored" edits.
Question: Do compilations (Verve MGM Polydor) exist that have "normal censored" edits?
To me it seems that Polydor Europe only had the "heavily censored" version at hand. So they couldn't have issued "normal censored" edits.
The only "normal censored" Europe version I know of is the UK re-issue.

(#) I'm pretty sure all "heavily censored" vinyl versions have the shortened Velvet line
because all my "heavily censored" versions (UK, US and German) have the Velvet Line without the "shitty" thing.
I checked this with several Zappa collectors and they all confirmed this.
Question: Do "heavily censored" versions exist that have the Velvet line completely cut?

Question: Why did the WOIIFTM/Lumpy Gravy 1985 CD have the Hot Poop version with the backwards Mother People verse while it was not cencored on the CD?

 

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